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Yo, can you get some vegetarian tacos for the crib?
Ghostface Killah asked a helper.
Method Man, GZA, Inspectah Deck, and Raekwon had scheduling conflicts.
How are you feeling?
Ghostface: Oh, okay.
[Nods and laughs.]
Are you feeling more like a brotherhood now?Ghost: Were always a brotherhood.
Because aint nobody together.
Not even the Jackson 5.
Ghost: Delfonics broke up, you know what I mean?
But we still here 25 years later, putting in that work.
We strong; we stronger than ever.
Did you think youd last for 25 years?Unison: Hell yeah!
What does 25 years mean to you …Ghost:It doesnt mean shit!
… As a group and as human beings?Ghost: What does it mean?
We humble; we humble.
Because like we said, a lot of groups, they break up!
You watchUnsung[on TV One]?
You see what goes down, and the group just goes.
Its like, yo, thats a blessing.
And the world love you at the same time?
Its like, that means a lot!
Masta Killa: Go back to your roots right there.
Cappa: My brother came out for the first time in his life.
Ghost: Its like you back where you started from.
Theres still love there.
RZA: Youre talking about 25 years.
On that album we were trying to make an audio movie.
And now youre watching that story instead of hearing it.
But it takes that renewal.
You all saw the movie for the first time at the premiere.
Its a lot of archival footage mixed with interviews.
And this is speaking about the people right next to me.
Be chill, cool out a little bit.
You know what Im saying?
It aint that serious.
Dont get sucked up in that bullshit.
Just hanging around the wrong dudes, you get caught up in a lot of stupid shit.
RZA: For me, seeing myself, the 25-years-ago guy, actually for me its helping me now.
Its reminding me of myself.
Because, you know, sometimes you’re free to get away from yourself, from your pursuits.
The Hadith has a great verse that says, Whatever a mans heart intends, he will find.
If you intend to go get married, you will be led there.
If youre intended for money, you will be led there.
It actually has reinvigorated me.
This is like medicine for me.
U-God: I kind of forgot who I was a little bit what I was as a shorty.
Ive been away from that element for so long now.
Its like,Wow!Just the stuff that we were doing, we were fearless.
And as you get older, you become fearful of certain things.
When we was kids, we didnt care.
And hopefully my sons wont have to go through the same situation.
Theyre going to go through their problems and their ups and downs from being men, being humans.
Whether its Ghost getting shot in the neck, RZA beating that charge [for attempted murder].
And not too many of my brothers can say they did that.
Thats what makes this group so special to me and why I was really attracted to them.
[Points to RZA.]
I was attracted to RZA because of his mind.
His great mind was, to me, a magnet.
The altitude is tiring.
[Ghost wakes up.]
venture to get these tacos, baby!
RZA youre a vegan.
Did you get everyone else to turn vegan?RZA: Nah, but were a pretty healthy crew.
Cappa: I just eat fish and tossed salads.
U-God: I cook lovely.
Im known for my fried chicken.
My legendary fried chicken.
Cappa: Weve got some spaghetti over there waiting for us at the mansion.
RZA: No tossed salad, though!
Its not what people think of when they picture the inner city.
U-God: Yes, sir.
U-God: A couple kids fell in there and died, too.
My dog fell through.
My grandma used to cook 100 hot dogs, remember?
Come down and shed give everybody a hot dog.
Like he said, the Fields was cool, but you dont go too far in the Fields.
Remember that little train track that went through there?
Cappa: Dont go past the train tracks.
RZA: I used to get chased by the white boys on their motorbikes.
Did you visit him there?RZA: Yeah, all the time.
U-God: I used to work beside him, so I didnt have to visit him.
What wound up in the movie, was that your choice?RZA: Thats the directors choice.
Hes the director and he has the freedom to tell that story.
I have to let go.
Just as a creative person, though.
Thats just part of the Im making the beat; let me finish!
bang out shit, right?
But I had to let go, and I think letting go was healthy for the film.
Did you get emotional watching it?U-God: I did, I cried like a little girl.
Ghost: Seeing his baby get shot.
[Shakes head.]
My son, he died twice.
He came back, too.
You know, flat line.Boooppp.Come back, flat line again.Boooppp.Come back.
It was fucked up.
Ghost: Seeing Dirty up there got to me, too.
U-God: Yeah, seeing Dirty, too.
Sacha: His child gets shot, and theres that scene where hes holding his child and he curses.
And his child says, Daddy, why are you cursing?
And he says, Because thats how I feel right now.
And his little kid has the foresight to say, No, Daddy, youre not stressed.Imstressed.
How intelligent and sensitive, how human they are.
Because we are not humanized.
Were not just rappers; were not just thugs.
Hip-hop empowered these guys.
Look what we can do.
Imagine if we had all of the resources we deserved.
U-God: A lot of dudes wouldnt have died.
Ghost: You see, that was your whole life onscreen.
Just let it out: Yo, this is my life.
I dont got a problem with expressing certain things, you know what I mean?
All you got is you, and thats what it was.
I cant tell nobody that wasnt my life, Id be fronting.
But again, youve got other people that can identify with that, that basically lived the same shit.
You look at it like,Damn, yo.
Whenever you see that scar [Points to a scar on his hand.]
This one, its from 89.
RZA: You know whats so funny though we always expressed our emotions, our lives.
We told you directly about it in our songs.
He grew up on the crime side.
He was using crack and weed as a 15-year-old.
I mean, can you imagine your 15-year-old son or nephew doing that?
You would hope not.
You know what I mean?
It always was there.
But now they go, That was depression, or That was ADD.
They find names to put on it.
And you go, Maybe I had attention deficit.
Im on hypertension medication.
And of course Ive got hypertension.
My mind is always moving.
They say as time goes, we find terms to identify and then we can look back.
Why does this kid have sadness in his eyes?
He dont got the definition for it in his time in his mind.
And then he look back on it and go,Oh, Ive been depressed.
Ghost: Im probably still depressed.
Know what I mean?
One last thing, youre going on a European tour this summer.
What are you looking forward to the most?RZA: Europe is always exciting, right?
Thats the same shit, more or less, but Im waking up to brothers playing chess.
Thats the fun stuff for me.
And then going onstage and going to work after that.
Its work, but its not really work.
This is what I love to do.
The renewed togetherness feels awesome?Cappa: We want that bus!
Shit wasnt right over there.
Hey, I couldnt get any of you in a room with anyone else!
