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I dont belittle him.
Im quite the opposite.
I say, Tell me about this.
I thought it was terrific.
I thought it was wonderful.
So, thats totally the opposite of reality.
Also, Im not that bothered about not getting things.
My career is fine, you know, its good.
I dont want to be further up.
I want to stay where I am.
Do you like that?
It manifests itself because we do have dinner with each other, when filming stops.
But no one wants to watch that, so we pick at each others peccadilloes.
We mine the discomfort.
So, by this fourth outing, we sort of knew how to do it.
It was like putting on an old jacket.
RB: Ive been very pleasantly surprised.
But you never see it the way other people see it.
Especially when its something where we are in essence playing a version of ourselves.
So, its quite hard to watch because theres so much of us.
Were in every bloody shot, you know.
The Gemma Arterton stuff.
Is it inThe Trip to Spain?I remember thinking that was hilarious.
And he says, Well, itd be perfect if you werent here.
And I say, Well, who would you rather be there?
And he said, I dont know, Gemma Arterton?
So, I start pretending to be Gemma Arterton, and he starts trying to chat me up.
And then I would take offense at something very innocuous and slap his face.
And I remember us thinking this was just hilarious.
SC: It sort of preempted Me Too.
Insofar as we couldnt do it anymore.
Thats a lovely sunset over there.
And I go, [Gasp.]
So, there was that.
SC: And also, Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.
We sang a very rude version of Chitty Chitty Bang Bang which I always loved.
Bond, imagine when this whole underground complex of caves is turned into one giant discotheque.
And he says, You forget, Mr.
Bond, my brother is the town planner.
And I say, BarryManga?
And he says, No, Larry.
That was rather funny.
It never grows old.
Thats what Im the most nostalgic about.
And Im very glad that our bit didnt end up because it would have been very similar.
But it was very funny.
Do you remember that?
SC: Yeah, I remember you talking about that.
I didnt know about that.
So maybe theyll sort of drip feed these weird off-cuts as it were, as well.
Guy Garvey sent me a message saying he absolutely loved our Swingle Singers.
So thats quite good, isnt it?
He really loved it.
RB: Thats great.
There is more singing, but theres singing that was left out.
SC: Is the Barry Gibb stuff in?
I cant remember whats in the film or whats in the series.
RB: Didnt we do ABBA songs sung by the Bee Gees?
I dont think thats made it.
SC: Thats when you know its time to pull up the drawbridge.
Lets do the Bee Gees singing ABBA songs.
It sounds like youre really rooting through the attic.
RB: It depends entirely on how its done!
SC: Yes, of course it does.
But just on face value, it sounds like the sound of distant barrels being scraped.
[Warning: Some spoilers ahead.]
What kind of conversation did you have beforehand with Michael Winterbottom about this plot development?
And I was like, Uh …
I thought about it for a second.
But a little bit of distance has passed now.
And I trust him.
Was there a sense when you were shootingThe Trip to Greecethat reality was intruding a bit more?
Because the trip in this one is interrupted.
And then theres our flights of fancy where hell give us pointers and well invent stuff.
Typically itll be when were at a table, although often in the car.
But its Michaels thing.
He creates from within that.
If Im being very honest, all it felt to me was [Laughs.]
Because theres so much of us.
Sort of like a parallel reality.
I imagine that if I developed dementia, I might watch it and think that was my life.
Do you know what I mean?
And think,Oh yes, I remember all that.
Yes, that used to be my wife.
Did you know this film would be the last one?SC: No.
We always discuss the next one.
So, its good not to jump the shark.
But it wasnt a definite decision.
It became apparent and then Michael said, This is the last.
I thought, Well, good, well, fine, great.
And Rob I think felt the same.
But I like to think that maybe one day wed return to it.
SC: Yeah, I think in ten years time.
Im certain of it.
Its like when a band gets back together.
When Im about 65.
Well, retirement age.
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