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A bit about white privilege becomes a meditation on believing in the supernatural.
He broaches the topic of sexual harassment only for it to evolve into a joke about emotional support dogs.
Stories about aging parents double as a reflection on inherited values and behavioral regression.
Im at home, full of energy, pursuing my own dumb little hobbies.
Outside of the global pandemic, racial strife, the world coming to an end, Ive been fine.
If asked, would you perform now under any circumstance?
Im not in a rush.
But Im still a little suspect of enclosed spaces.
Some comics havestarted livestreaming their shows.
What Id want to do right now is work on new bits.
If Im trying to workshop new stuff, you do that and fail at it.
Thats been a part of open mics, or doing a show that only has 20 people.
If I bomb, then thats why I practice this stuff before I charge somebody money for it.
With a Zoom show, anybody can watch that and not understand that Im trying out new stuff.
Doing it under this guise that youre healing people with your comedy, its like … And I dont need the attention.
The fear of bombing isnt there on a Zoom show.
He pointed out that industries built on disposable incomes are the first to collapse when everything goes wrong.
If people want to go to that, theyre doing petitions and raising money for independent venues.
But how many GoFundMes did you see pop up that were like, kindly support the staff?
I dont know, man.
Its depressing to think about.
When I really get mad about it, I just want people to burn down the banks.
But thats not the thing we can say, right?
Theyre not giving us any breaks, so fuck the banks.
But thats not funny.
Even my landlord was still like, Listen, if youre in a rough place, talk to me.
Well work something out, but the bank isnt telling him the same thing.
What were we talking about outside of bombing banks?
Where did all these small business loans go?
Oh, to more billionaires.
Not the people that need it.Thisis where I want the civil war to start.
Robin Hood the whole thing.
Oh boy, whered this interview go?
I dont know where its going to go.
But will they have money?
Will they have health and money to be able to go do those things?
I really didnt want this to be a bummer.Im very lucky.
Oh, this year was good that doesnt mean next years going to be good!
Its not some corporate ladder that you climb up.
I always planned for the worst.
Thats one thing about low self-esteem: It lends a lot to self-preservation.
Im comfortable now, but Im scared for the venues I want to play at.
Im scared for other performers that arent in that situation because theydidbet on themselves.
Im worried about my colleagues and people that launch the venues.
If I dont get paid, he doesnt get paid.
I like my agent.
I like my manager.
They need to make a living, too.
Nobody told you to buy another Range Rover.
Let the people who need it get the work.
I got a PA. Im gonna do comedy.
Im gonna pass the hat around.
Then move on to the next town doing the same thing.
Bring beer, post up, and well do it this way.
But its hard to trust that model.
Its hard to go, Yeah, Im gonna sleep in a car for three weeks.
You gotta be willing to do that.
You say, Here I am.
Im gonna be in this parking lot.
If the cops come to shut it down, hey, thats great press.
That ethos that worked for punk rock in the 80s and 90s should not be ignored.
That way of doing things, you might see it flourish for other creative avenues now.
Oh, look out, I shit on that floor.
Oh, I stepped in that shit I left on the floor!
The pitfalls in capitalism are on full display right now.
But also, I never bought a house.
I never started a family.
Thats the only reason Im calm about myself.
Im not like, You should have saved your money.
Why didnt you do what I did?
I lived with paranoia and, for once, the paranoia is paying off.
Thats all Ive got going myself.
This interview has been edited and condensed for clarity.
