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Good and evil is a consciousness, as he put it to Vulture recently.

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Its a man-made parameter.

Youve done paranormal investigations before, but this focuses more specifically on demonic forces.

Primarily the Catholic church, theyre the ones that designate demons.

And we had one of the most profound interactions with that entity.

I mean, Im calling it a spirit because I dont really know what it was other than that.

Its not that Im opposed to religion, I just never found one that made sense to me.

Because good and evil is a consciousness.

Its a man-made parameter.

The sun provides light to planet Earth, and its one of the reasons why we even exist.

But if we were to get in a spaceship and fly too close to the sun, were cooked.

So does that make the sun evil?

And at what point?

Because even though its giving us life, it can also be the taker of life.

People have always sat around campfires and told scary stories.

We had no idea that Joshua was the kind of character he was.

We did not know he could speak Latin.

We did not know he was involved in occult-punch in practices.

We had no idea, and it was a huge surprise to us.

And then when we were in Juneau, people were like oh yeah, Joshua.

Like, he had a reputation.

You know, is it worth it to them?

Just, you name it, weve experienced it there.

Youve been very open about living with MS and the mental effects of that.

Theres a lot of autoimmune disease within that area of Utah.

And its kind of abnormally high.

And so people are trying to really figure that out.

I dont know, I dont have any scientific evidence to prove that.

And its a really great work environment, albeit in scary places.