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Visually and narratively,Insecures fourth seasonwas the shows strongest.
Issa finally had a job she was passionate about, and she had worked through her issues with Lawrence.
Molly was in love withAsian Bae Andrew, finally happy in a romantic relationship.
(Kelliwas, as usual, totally off the chain.)
And then a finale bombshell: Lawrences ex-girlfriend Condola is pregnant and Lawrence is the father.
The moment seemed to sink the episode the season!
beforeInsecurereturned to the relationship thats always been at its center,the friendship between Molly and Issa.
This idea that youre only going to have rosey moments the whole time is difficult, Penny tells me.
When youve been friends for so long, you know where all the bodies are buried.
You know all of their mistakes.
Both Issa and Molly were taking that friendship for granted for a long time.
Prentice broke down the finale, that shocking pregnancy announcement, and whats next for Issa in season five.
We wanted to play with what happens if that fantasy gets altered.
Is that something she could deal with?
Happiness is a choice.
Thats what Issa says.
So we wanted to challenge that point of view.Can you find happiness here?
Or can you not?Theres no wrong answer.
Was Lawrences fade a bait and switch?His haircut?
That was just Jay [Ellis] wanting to try something since we dont see Lawrence for a second.
People change their haircuts all the time.
It wasnt a fully thought-out thing.
He just wanted to try a clean start.
Tell me about rehearsing this scene.We tried it in a lot of different ways.
In another take, it was, Only think about what youre losing in this scene.
Dont think about anything else.
Dont think about her feelings.
Just think about your feelings and what youre losing.
And just those two notes gave it a very different performance.
Same with Issa and Lawrence.
I would tell Issa [Rae], Hey, this time, you cant even look at him.
Once he tells you, dont even make eye contact with him, youre just so hurt and disgusted.
Just attempt to understand.
You could hear a pin drop when we were filming those scenes.
The cuts between those two conversations were really dynamic.
It was a flashback.
It just didnt feel as interesting.
That always stuck with me.
I loved how beautiful the finale was.
And then, when they were looking for Tiffany, we shot it all very docuseries.
I was trying to go for a veryAmerican Honeyfeeling and vibe.
And so I was really trying to lean into that again.
We never shoot in slow motion, so that was something new that I wanted to incorporate.
I was just really trying to continue to elevate the show visually to where the character was.
The city and culture of Los Angeles are obviously part of the fabric of this show.
CouldInsecurefollow Lawrence to San Francisco?Yeah.
As long as the characters always tether back to Issa, it merits following them.
Do we tie things back?
Do we bring things full circle?
Do you think Condola still has feelings for Lawrence?Yeah, of course I think she does.
Thats when she closes up again.
Those feelings are on the table for sure.
Id like to talk about Molly and Andrew.
The last five episodes are two months.
So they were dating like seven or eight months, if you take it back to season three.
Do you think Andrew gave Molly too many chances?Hmm.
We talked a lot about that in the room.
Were always trying to write relationships where one person isnt the cause of something.
Two people are in a relationship.
It takes both of them to make it continue, whether its a bad pattern or not.
Why would you think she was more willing to work things out with Andrew?
During their breakup scene, Molly keeps saying that theyve been putting so much effort into their relationship.
Shes making a clear argument for why that relationship is important to her.
Those things that Derek is talking about are resonating with both of them.
Even her energy is different.
Shes much more defensive in her first conversation with Andrew when theyre talking about his brother.
When she comes back from looking for Tiffany, shes just like, I want to talk about this.
I dont want to just be defensive.
Shes willing to be open.
I think she takes that same energy to Issa.
With everything post-Tiffany, shes different.
Shes the one that called Issa this time.
In episode nine, if you remember, Issa was the one that called Molly.
Now Mollys tried with Andrew.
Maybe it works out, maybe it doesnt.
And she tried with Issa.
Issa and Molly have a different history, but Molly is making an effort on both sides.
When do you think Molly and Issas friendship was at its healthiest?It ebbs and flows.
I feel like friendship is good.
I really dont like when people are like, This is a toxic person!
People dont cancel real people in their lives like that.
People that youve been friends with for 20 years?
Like, stop it.
I think people want these characters to make better decisions.
People dont cancel people like this in real life, the way they say they cancel them on Twitter!
What do you make of that?Oh, no!
I will tell you LaToya is a black woman and Andrew is Chinese.
So no, I dont even know how you would get there at all.
Yes.What was the ranking criteria?
What was it based on?
Was it based on personality, or looks, or
Molly is a grown-up.
He always said, Hey, this is the scenario.
You know what it is.
And he wasnt ever lying, trying to make it not be that.
Mollys the one that called him and went back to him.
Now you could say when Dro was tripping about the house key, yeah, thats an offense.
I feel like he was honest.
I just dont know why he would be last.
He is married, his marriage had an agreement, and Molly knowingly engaged in that.
Why did you rank him last?
I agree that Molly knew what kind of relationship she was entering into.
But I also think Molly has her own agency.
The other thing to remember is that they were friends from back in the day.
In real life, I could see a guy like that doing those things because shes his friend.
I dont think that inherently makes him trash or last on the list, but those are fair points.
I love that you put Thug Yoda as No.
Reading it, I was like,Whooo is going to be No.
1?I was really curious.
I thought that Derek was going to be higher.
What was Derek, like number six?
It shouldnt takehaving a daughter to do that.Yeah, I get it.
But thats real for a lot of men!
