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As interesting as the tone and style ofAmanda Sealessstand-up is how she came to stand-up in the first place.

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It wasnt until she was 33 that she transformed bits of solo shows and cheeky lectures into bonafide stand-up.

Shes 38 now, and shes learned a lot in five years.

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I have to come up with it onstage, like Jay-Z, off the top of my head.

I also learned that I am not a surgical comic.

I was trying to force myself into,Okay, youre going to perfect every word.

You know how to think with edits in mind.

Well figure it out.

Your bit about catcalling reallystarted after an appearance on CNN, and a subsequent lecture called Side-Eye Seminar.

I just hadnt committed to being a stand-up.

Wow, I never said it like that before.

That just made everything make sense for everyone, including myself.

Your Instagram bio says, Im not for everyone.

Im not interested in making everybody laugh.

Im more interested in making everyone learn.

I want some people to feel uncomfortable.

I want them to shift in their seats.

I want to make some people cry.

Some people say, Good comics should change peoples minds.

Thats the beauty of comedy.

You see certain comics for different purposes.

Im not going to a Band of Horses show expecting Migos.

Youve mentioned that you think of your stand-up as a TED Talk with jokes.

Its what I imagine doing a sensory deprivation chamber would be like.

I had to trust it.

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